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This category sucks. Its name sets itself up as the counterpart to [[:Category:Villains]] (in which "villain" has been [[Category talk:Villains|tentatively defined]] as someone who opposes the main characters with clearly evil intentions), but the intro sentence describes the category as being used for ''any'' protagonist. No, "hero" is not synonymous with "protagonist" in any context, and I don't know why we still use it, especially since it's not intuitive in the slightest. This has also led to every playable character in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' being listed as a Hero (presumably due to their role in the Subspace Emissary) despite the majority of them not taking a leading role at any point, and all of the [[partner]]s in the ''[[Paper Mario (series)|Paper Mario]]'' series being listed as Heroes despite them playing second fiddle to [[Mario]], and every playable character because someone clearly thought that [[:Category:Playable Characters]] didn't exist. This is a confusing and poorly implemented mess. Let's try to clean it up, shall we? | |||
This category sucks. Its name sets itself up as the counterpart to [[:Category:Villains]] (in which "villain" has been [[Category talk:Villains|tentatively defined]] as someone who opposes the main characters with clearly evil intentions), but the intro sentence describes the category as being used for ''any'' protagonist. No, "hero" is not synonymous with "protagonist" in any context, and I don't know why we still use it, especially since it's not intuitive in the slightest. This has also led to every playable character in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' being listed as a Hero (presumably due to their role in the Subspace Emissary) despite the majority of them not taking a leading role at any point, and all of the [[partner]]s in the ''[[Paper Mario (series)|Paper Mario]]'' series being listed as Heroes despite them playing second fiddle to [[Mario]], and every playable character | |||
'''Option 1: Strictly define "hero" to be a protagonist with obviously good intentions.'''<br> | '''Option 1: Strictly define "hero" to be a protagonist with obviously good intentions.'''<br> | ||
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===Option 1 (strictly define)=== | ===Option 1 (strictly define)=== | ||
===Option 2 (more broadly define)=== | ===Option 2 (more broadly define)=== | ||
#{{User|Time Turner}} Per proposal. | #{{User|Time Turner}} Per proposal. | ||
#[[User:Char89Charizard|Char89Charizard]] ([[User talk:Char89Charizard|talk]]) I have to agree. Protagonists aren't always heroes. I mean Wario and Bowser are protagonists in certain games but they're not considered heroes. | #[[User:Char89Charizard|Char89Charizard]] ([[User talk:Char89Charizard|talk]]) I have to agree. Protagonists aren't always heroes. I mean Wario and Bowser are protagonists in certain games but they're not considered heroes. | ||
===Option 3 (delete)=== | ===Option 3 (delete)=== | ||
#{{User|Time Turner}} Per proposal. | #{{User|Time Turner}} Per proposal. | ||
#{{User|Baby Luigi}} I always thought the term was a bit too loaded for my tastes. I also like Time Turner's reasoning here, as this category overlaps with Allies and Characters. Stemming from that, I think something should be done with "Category:Villains" too, which I feel has similar problems to this article considering overlap with "Boss" and "Enemies". | #{{User|Baby Luigi}} I always thought the term was a bit too loaded for my tastes. I also like Time Turner's reasoning here, as this category overlaps with Allies and Characters. Stemming from that, I think something should be done with "Category:Villains" too, which I feel has similar problems to this article considering overlap with "Boss" and "Enemies". | ||
===Option 4 (do nothing)=== | ===Option 4 (do nothing)=== | ||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== |