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This category sucks. Its name sets itself up as the counterpart to [[:Category:Villains]] (in which "villain" has been [[Category talk:Villains|tentatively defined]] as someone who opposes the main characters with clearly evil intentions), but the intro sentence describes the category as being used for ''any'' protagonist. No, "hero" is not synonymous with "protagonist" in any context, and I don't know why we still use it, especially since it's not intuitive in the slightest. This has also led to every playable character in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' being listed as a Hero (presumably due to their role in the Subspace Emissary) despite the majority of them not taking a leading role at any point, and all of the [[partner]]s in the ''[[Paper Mario (series)|Paper Mario]]'' series being listed as Heroes despite them playing second fiddle to [[Mario]], and every playable character because someone clearly thought that [[:Category:Playable Characters]] didn't exist. This is a confusing and poorly implemented mess. Let's try to clean it up, shall we? | |||
This category sucks. Its name sets itself up as the counterpart to [[:Category:Villains]] (in which "villain" has been [[Category talk:Villains|tentatively defined]] as someone who opposes the main characters with clearly evil intentions), but the intro sentence describes the category as being used for ''any'' protagonist. No, "hero" is not synonymous with "protagonist" in any context, and I don't know why we still use it, especially since it's not intuitive in the slightest. This has also led to every playable character in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' being listed as a Hero (presumably due to their role in the Subspace Emissary) despite the majority of them not taking a leading role at any point, and all of the [[partner]]s in the ''[[Paper Mario (series)|Paper Mario]]'' series being listed as Heroes despite them playing second fiddle to [[Mario]], and every playable character | |||
'''Option 1: Strictly define "hero" to be a protagonist with obviously good intentions.'''<br> | '''Option 1: Strictly define "hero" to be a protagonist with obviously good intentions.'''<br> | ||
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'''Option 2: Define "hero" to be any major characters with obviously good intentions.'''<br> | '''Option 2: Define "hero" to be any major characters with obviously good intentions.'''<br> | ||
This opens the gates ever so slightly more: instead of limiting the category exclusively to protagonists, any notable character who helps out for obviously good reasons would be included as well. This is more in line with the proper definition of a "hero", and it also allows the category to be filled out more thoroughly. In this case, the [[partner]]s would remain, due to their required nature and constant (though perhaps inconsistent) involvement in the gameplay and story. The flipside of broadening the definition, however, is that there may be some overlap with [[ | This opens the gates ever so slightly more: instead of limiting the category exclusively to protagonists, any notable character who helps out for obviously good reasons would be included as well. This is more in line with the proper definition of a "hero", and it also allows the category to be filled out more thoroughly. In this case, the [[partner]]s would remain, due to their required nature and constant (though perhaps inconsistent) involvement in the gameplay and story. The flipside of broadening the definition, however, is that there may be some overlap with [[Category:Allies]], and that category's a mess as well. To counter this, a compromise could be made that clearly set notable characters as heroes and more minor characters as allies - though this isn't strictly relevant to this proposal. If we're keeping the category, I'd prefer this option for its wider reach. | ||
'''Option 3: Delete the category'''<br> | '''Option 3: Delete the category'''<br> | ||
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'''Proposer''': {{User|Time Turner}}<br> | '''Proposer''': {{User|Time Turner}}<br> | ||
'''Deadline''': | '''Deadline''': [insert a deadline here, 7 days after the proposal was created (14 for writing guidelines and talk page proposals), at 23:59 GMT, in the format: "August 8, 2011, 23:59 GMT"] | ||
===Option 1 (strictly define)=== | ===Option 1 (strictly define)=== | ||
===Option 2 (more broadly define)=== | ===Option 2 (more broadly define)=== | ||
#{{User|Time Turner}} Per proposal. | #{{User|Time Turner}} Per proposal. | ||
===Option 3 (delete)=== | ===Option 3 (delete)=== | ||
#{{User|Time Turner}} Per proposal. | #{{User|Time Turner}} Per proposal. | ||
===Option 4 (do nothing)=== | ===Option 4 (do nothing)=== | ||
===Comments=== | ===Comments=== |