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| ===Split Into Two Separate Categories===
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| {{Proposal outcome|green|split 8-0}}
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| People love it when things are easy to get to and when they can get information quickly. That's why I want this category to be split into two: one for doctors and one for scientists.
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| I absolutely love fictional doctors, so I once went on here to find some more besides Dr. Mario and Dr. Toadley (this was before Dr. Luigi was canon, by the way). However, this was also mixed with scientists, so I had to randomly click on all the links to find somebody who was actually a doctor. It's confusing when you're in a category and you can't find exactly what you're looking for.
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| I know scientists are sometimes referred to as, "Dr.", but when we think of doctor, we do not think of Bill Nye the Science Guy. I suggest splitting this category into two so people will not bang their head on the keyboard because they're writing a Mario fanfiction and they need a doctor besides Dr. Mario.
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| '''Proposer''': {{User|Madz the Penguin}}<br>
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| '''Deadline''': November 22, 2014, 23:59 GMT
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| ====Support====
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| #{{User|Madz the Penguin}} Per my proposal
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| #{{User|Toadbrigade5}} Per proposal: Evidence of necessity: Dr. E Gadd isn't a doctor. So yeah split.
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| #{{User|Walkazo}} - As seen in the comments, the second category for the non-medical doctors is going to be [[:Category:Scientists]], which is a good idea, both for the reasons mentioned in the proposal, but also because it's broad enough to include scientists without doctorates.
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| #{{User|SuperYoshiBros}} Seems logical to me. Per all.
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| #{{User|Glitchy Bowser Jr.}} Scientists aren't doctors, so I don't see why they are mixed.
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| #{{User|Ghost Jam}} Per all.
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| #{{User|Boo4761}} Per all.
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| #{{User|Poltergeyser}} I don't understand how someone decided to combine them. Per all.
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| ====Oppose====
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| OK OK, but Madz, fix something please: On the proposals you formatted it incorrectly and [[Mario Wiki:Proposals]] is a part of the doctor's category. FIX IT!!! [[User:Toadbrigade5|Toadbrigade5]] ([[User talk:Toadbrigade5|talk]]) 23:15, 8 November 2014 (EST)
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| :I fixed it! Wow, when I figured that out, it was scary. I thought I messed up so badly, I'll get in trouble on here. Oh well, at least that page isn't a doctor anymore. Why do I feel like [[Ashley and Red|Ashley]] right now? [[User:Madz the Penguin|Madz the Penguin]] ([[User talk:Madz the Penguin|talk]]) 23:22, 8 November 2014 (EST)
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| ::You're not going to get in trouble. :P Everyone makes honest mistakes like that from time to time. Fill a chill pill! {{User:Mario/sig}} 23:57, 8 November 2014 (EST)
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| @Proposal: What exactly are you going to split it into? I'd suggest renaming the title to something else because all of these people share something in common, that they're people working in white-collar-like professions. {{User:Mario/sig}} 23:58, 8 November 2014 (EST)
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| :Doctors and Scientists, of course! We need to separate them, because even if they are called, "Dr.", scientists are not doctors. They are highly educated people, but they study different things. Doctors go to medical school for three years ''plus'' another three years of internship. Scientists, depending on their studies, do not go to medical school; they take different classes that teach them what they need to learn. So, Dr. Mario does not have a similar job to E. Gadd; their lives are different, and they study different things.
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| Oh, and a chill pill! *puts pill in a bottle full of viruses, and it starts a chain reaction where all the viruses are destroyed* Thank you so much for the help! [[User:Madz the Penguin|Madz the Penguin]] ([[User talk:Madz the Penguin|talk]]) 00:07, 9 November 2014 (EST)
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| ::I'd like "Doctors and professors" maybe... even if the name does sound kind of overlappy. But look at the opening sentence of this category, heh ("''...or simply those characters that are named with the title "Doctor" or "Professor". ''"). And, lol, nice one. It's probably chill viruses in there, heehee. {{User:Mario/sig}} 00:25, 9 November 2014 (EST)
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| :::Doctors and professors? I prefer them getting separated. I didn't have to click on random links in the birds category to find another penguin, because there's a penguin category already. That should be the same with doctors and professors.
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| :::Oh, and I got the bottle from Dr. Toadley. Yeah, he was coughing in a bottle, and I saw Blue Viruses in there. Thanks to you, they're all gone! What is that Toad hiding? [[Sick|Oh well...]] [[User:Madz the Penguin|Madz the Penguin]] ([[User talk:Madz the Penguin|talk]]) 01:05, 9 November 2014 (EST)
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| ::::Oh, you're welcome. man. The Toad is going to be okay, don't worry about him <s>not Ebola for sure</s>. The penguin category is already a subcategory of birds; there are enough penguins in the Mario series so the separate category is created to prevent cluttering the bird category. And it's been established here that the lines between doctor and professor can be blurred sometimes, so I'd still advocate a rename than an actual split. {{User:Mario/sig}} 14:38, 9 November 2014 (EST)
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| :::::Yeah, I think he just has a cold. The only problem is that [[Birdley]] is overprotecting him after he figured out Dr. Toadley caught a cold. Oh Birdley, when can I put him in the cage again?
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| :::::How are professors and doctors almost the same thing? Albert Einstein didn't cure diseases, and he's a professor. Even if there are few doctors in the Mario series, we need a split. Professors and doctors are similar, but not the same, just like policemen and lawyers. [[User:Madz the Penguin|Madz the Penguin]] ([[User talk:Madz the Penguin|talk]]) 16:33, 9 November 2014 (EST)
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| I feel like "Scientists" would make sense as the second category, since then people won't get hung up on overlapping titles, and just focus on the professions (with any theoretical PhDs of Philosophy or English or whatever getting kicked out entirely and placed in neither). Plus, any scientist characters without doctorates could also go in there, when currently, there's nothing for them. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 17:52, 9 November 2014 (EST)
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| Is anyone going to Support or Oppose? Only Toad Brigade and I voted, and if this has less than 3 votes, it won't pass. [[User:Madz the Penguin|Madz the Penguin]] ([[User talk:Madz the Penguin|talk]]) 20:37, 9 November 2014 (EST)
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| :I don't know the course of action in this proposal yet. Split it into two categories? Although you did explain what those categories are in the comments, maybe you should split it into "Doctors" and "Scientists"... {{User:Mario/sig}} 18:41, 11 November 2014 (EST)
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| How do you split something? I might be able to do it if I knew how to. [[User:Madz the Penguin|Madz the Penguin]] ([[User talk:Madz the Penguin|talk]]) 22:10, 11 November 2014 (EST)
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| :Create a new article, move all relevant info from that into this. {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 22:28, 11 November 2014 (EST)
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| ::I listed all doctors to see which ones are scientists and which ones are doctors. Dr. Topper was the only one to not be a doctor nor a scientist, so that goes in neither categories. Also, how do you create a category? [[User:Madz the Penguin|Madz the Penguin]] ([[User talk:Madz the Penguin|talk]]) 23:04, 11 November 2014 (EST)
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| :::It's like creating any page except you write "Category:" in the beginning of it. Like this: [[:Category:Scientists]] {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 23:31, 11 November 2014 (EST)
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| ::::There we go, I made the category! Feel free to use it for the scientists of the Marioverse! Just go to the Doctors category and add the Scientists to that category. Now Bill Nye and Dr. House won't be in the same category if they were Mario characters! [[User:Madz the Penguin|Madz the Penguin]] ([[User talk:Madz the Penguin|talk]]) 00:10, 12 November 2014 (EST)
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| :::::Uh your proposal hasn't passed yet...you shouldn't create the article yet {{User:Baby Luigi/sig}} 01:21, 12 November 2014 (EST)
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| ::::::Uh oh, should I delete that? I don't know how to delete pages, so we have a problem here... [[User:Madz the Penguin|Madz the Penguin]] ([[User talk:Madz the Penguin|talk]]) 20:43, 12 November 2014 (EST)
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| :::::::You can't delete pages unless you're granted certain user rights by being promoted to sysop or further. I suggest you contact a sysop (someone like [[User talk:L151|L151]], [[User talk:Toa 95|Toa 95]], [[User talk:Gamefreak75|Gamefreak75]], [[User talk:Walkazo|Walkazo]], [[User talk:Glowsquid|Glowsquid]], anyone that's colored green or purple in the [[Special:RecentChanges|recent changes]]; tell them your honest mistake and they'll delete it. Or, tag {{tem|delete}} and just wait. But I think it's faster to let them know, provided they aren't already aware of this. {{User:Mario/sig}} 21:29, 12 November 2014 (EST)
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| ::::::::I deleted it. - {{User:Walkazo/sig}} 12:00, 13 November 2014 (EST)
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| The Scientists category is now created! Please put all scientists or professors with no medical degree in that category. Do not try to delete the newly created category, as none have opposed this proposal. Thank you for supporting this change and causing less headaches for our fellow readers. [[User:Madz the Penguin|Madz the Penguin]] ([[User talk:Madz the Penguin|talk]]) 11:40, 23 November 2014 (EST)
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