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| ==Split the ''Mario's Time Machine'' historical figures into a separate category== | | ==Split the ''Mario's Time Machine'' historical figures into a separate category== |
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| {{Proposal outcome|passed|4-2|split}}
| | Although we agreed that [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive_47#Decide_if_the_Mario.27s_Time_Machine_historical_figures_are_characters_and.2For_people|the ''Mario's Time Machine'' historical figures are both characters and people]], there's something off about [[Hiroshi Yamauchi]] being stuck between [[Henry Ford]] and [[Ho Ti]]. I think that it'd be more valuable for the people (developers, actors, etc.) who had a direct hand themselves in the ''Mario'' franchise to receive more attention than the fictionalized appearances of a smorgasbord of figures in a single obscure game. I can guarantee that the vast majority of readers who look at this category are more interested in the former category than the latter; one shows the genuine history, for lack of a better term, of the franchise, and the other is a trivia point. In short, I propose that a new category be created to house the historical figures that exclusively appear in ''[[:Category:Mario's_Time_Machine_Characters|Mario's Time Machine]]''. All of them may be people as per the wiki's technical term, but it's a bit disingenuous to treat them as equally relevant. |
| Although we agreed that [[MarioWiki:Proposals/Archive/47#Decide_if_the_Mario.27s_Time_Machine_historical_figures_are_characters_and.2For_people|the ''Mario's Time Machine'' historical figures are both characters and people]], there's something off about [[Hiroshi Yamauchi]] being stuck between [[Henry Ford]] and [[Ho Ti]]. I think that it'd be more valuable for the people (developers, actors, etc.) who had a direct hand themselves in the ''Mario'' franchise to receive more attention than the fictionalized appearances of a smorgasbord of figures in a single obscure game. I can guarantee that the vast majority of readers who look at this category are more interested in the former category than the latter; one shows the genuine history, for lack of a better term, of the franchise, and the other is a trivia point. In short, I propose that a new category be created to house the historical figures that exclusively appear in ''[[:Category:Mario's_Time_Machine_Characters|Mario's Time Machine]]''. All of them may be people as per the wiki's technical term, but it's a bit disingenuous to treat them as equally relevant. | |
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| '''Proposer''': {{User|Time Turner}}<br> | | '''Proposer''': {{User|Time Turner}}<br> |
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| #{{User|Time Turner}} Per proposal | | #{{User|Time Turner}} Per proposal |
| #{{User|WeirdDave13}} Per proposal | | #{{User|WeirdDave13}} Per proposal |
| #{{User|bwburke94}} Per proposal, and per the reason this category was split from the deceased-character category in the first place.
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| #{{User|Ghost Jam}} Per proposal. Long term, I'd be in favor of trimming the historical character articles out completely and just linking off to Wikipedia as needed.
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| ===Oppose=== | | ===Oppose=== |
| #{{User|Alex95}} - The definition of this category is "Real life people who have had some relation to the Mario franchise that are known to be dead." I say these qualify. If we agreed that the historical figures are both characters and people, then I think it's fine we categorize them as such as well.
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| #{{User|Toadette the Achiever}} Per Alex95.
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| ===Comments=== | | ===Comments=== |
| You mean like something listing the characters from the game? Because we already have [[:Category:Mario's Time Machine Characters|a category for that]]. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 23:57, 9 November 2018 (EST) | | You mean like something listing the characters from the game? Because we already have [[:Category:Mario's Time Machine Characters|a category for that]]. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 23:57, 9 November 2018 (EST) |
| :I said to split the historical figures from this category, making it distinct from this one. The ''Mario's Time Machine'' category also lists characters outside of the historical figures, but that's besides the point. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 10:46, 10 November 2018 (EST)
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| ::Yeah, but it's not like that category Toadette the Achiever listed is cumbersome to navigate. {{User:Bazooka Mario/sig}} 17:06, 11 November 2018 (EST)
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| :::It's for the purposes of this category, which I'd say is cumbersome to navigate with it being bogged down by fictionalized representations of historical, long-dead figures. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 19:16, 13 November 2018 (EST)
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| ::::Since there are only three completely fictional characters (at least) that appear in ''Mario's Time Machine'', I'd say it's ''not'' cumbersome. At least it's not to me. {{User:Toadette the Achiever/sig}} 20:01, 17 November 2018 (EST)
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| :::::This category is cumbersome. The ''Mario's Time Machine'' category has nothing to do with this proposal. {{User:Time Turner/sig}} 21:18, 17 November 2018 (EST)
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| @Ghost Jam: Um, why? Out of place as they may seem, these historical figures appear as relevant characters in a Mario game. They should stay without question. -- {{User:Super Radio/Sig}} 22:58, 17 November 2018 (EST)
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| :They are more relevant than '''''pie''''', at any rate. These ''aren't'' disgusting, unlike pie, though they ''are'' inedible, just like pie. [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 23:43, 17 November 2018 (EST)
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| ::Yeah, I agree they are still relevant to the ''Mario'' franchise (even though the game sucks in the historical department). {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:21, 18 November 2018 (EST)
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| :::(Oy guv'na, don't lie in the edit summary box. .-.) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 00:34, 18 November 2018 (EST)
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| ::::(Don't insult pie. :P) {{User:Alex95/sig}} 00:37, 18 November 2018 (EST)
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| :::::(But pie is [[Star Gate|dis gie]]) [[User:Doc von Schmeltwick|Doc von Schmeltwick]] ([[User talk:Doc von Schmeltwick|talk]]) 06:52, 18 November 2018 (EST)
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| ::::::Firstly, stay on topic, this isn't a social page. To answer the question, I'd argue that these historical figures are more references than outright characters or otherwise not something that really needs individual articles. But, as always, I'm willing to bend with editorial consensus. -- {{User:Ghost Jam/sig}} 16:43, 19 November 2018 (EST)
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